Hypothesis: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 “Genoa”, Ryzen 7000, and so on.)

New socket for Zen4 Epyc/TR/Ryzen is a given, and in addition confirmed by the Milan presentation (Genoa will use SP5)


Introducing DDR5 in 2021 with new sockets for the complete lineup is the subsequent step. Additionally, PCIe5 is more likely to be in there, too. The spec was completed in Might 2019, and it appears to take ~2 years from that time to {hardware} on cabinets (PCIe4 Oct2017/ AM4 Zen2 in 2019), additionally lining up for 2021.

New socket additionally means not having to cope with preexisting contraints like Zen2’s chiplet paradigm needed to do with to take care of AM4/SP3 compatibility. So I might assume there might be some additional advances on this space with interposers or extra artistic chiplet makes use of.

I additionally agree Zen4 will go wider to enhance efficiency whereas additionally persevering with Zen/Zen+/Zen2’s path in direction of getting ever nearer to the sensible ~5GHz restrict on extra cores. Zen2’s enhance algorithm will evolve to be much more efficient at getting 100% out of every particular person piece of silicon out of the fab.

I anticipate AVX-512 help in Zen4, identical to Zen/Zen+ supported AVX/2: be suitable, however execute at half fee. So far as I perceive AVX512 is good to have from an directions standpoint, other than the throughput enhance if one have been to do a full fee implementation of it. If it occurs, I ponder which circles of AVX-512 compatibility hell will they help.


Additionally, AMD favored the sport across the quantity 7 for Zen2’s launch (even going to a launch on a Sunday, and launching merchandise on the seventh of every month), so that is one other ultimate meme worthy launch for them. Blatantly stolen from the web hivemind:

  • AM5 + Zen4 (simply rename it to Zen5, lol)
  • DDR5
  • PCIe 5.0
  • Utilizing some type of TSMC’s 5nm node?
  • Launching 5/5/2021 (2021 = 2+2+1 = 5)


edit: Simply had a thought.

I bear in mind studying that AM4 was considerably constrained in what capabilites it uncovered out of the Zeppelin SOC whereas sustaining compatiblity with faildozer elements. Motherboard distributors have been pessimistic about it from the beginning contemplating the earlier 5 years of AMD’s historical past.

For instance, Zeppelin had 32 PCIe lanes in it, solely 24 have been used for AM4.

This time it is a clear slate for greatness contemplating what Zen has sparked within the business, to not point out the gross sales. Everybody might be prepared to do fascinating issues with it, or go the additional mile on connectivity.

If AM5 does some artistic chiplet utilization or strikes to an interposer, I might like to see an APU with an HBM2/3 stack in there. That will be superior, both as one other cache degree for common utilization or to offer the iGPU some juicy bandwidth to work with.

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